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"Dusty Ventures" (dustyventures)
11/05/2013 at 18:29 • Filed to: None

If I buy a car out of state, say Texas for example, can I fly to Texas with the license plates from my old car, stick them on my new car and drive it home? If not what do I need to do to make it possible for me to legally drive it back? I assume there's a way.

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Casper > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 18:32

What do you mean? Most states have a provision that you have a specific number of days after purchasing a vehicle to register and plate it. Usually all you have to have to drive it back is a bill of sale and/or signed title. Even expired tags don't matter in most cases (at least no where I have seen) so long as you have proof of purchase and meet the date to register.

As an example, I bought a 300ZX years ago with VERY expired tags. On my way through town I got pulled over. The cop asked for proof of registration and insurance. I showed him my temporary insurance and bill of sale. He told me to get my registration and tags taken care of soon so I didn't get bothered anymore, then sent me on my way.

HammerheadFistpunch > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 18:32

You can get temp plates from the state you plan on registering it in, and put them on when you get down there. The DMV offers transfer plates specifically for this purpose.

chato > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 18:33

you can do that. but it isn't legal. I was able to get a three day transfer registration in Utah. I would assume Tejas has something similar.

Gamecat235 > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 18:34

EDIT- I'm an idiot. That was oversized... I'll keep looking.

HammerheadFistpunch > Casper
11/05/2013 at 18:34

technically this is still illegal, I found out when I purchased a car out of state. I eventually opted to have it shipped (mistake), you need a temp plate from the DMV, they usually just need the vin and a provisional Bill of sale.

deekster_caddy > Casper
11/05/2013 at 18:35

Many states do but they aren't all the same. You need to check going state to state. Sometimes the 'you can drive it home without legit tags for x days after the bill of sale...' isn't valid with out of state plates. Some states have mandatory insurance requirements, some do not...

So the answer is... it depends. Every state is different.

Casper > HammerheadFistpunch
11/05/2013 at 18:36

Which state is that? In all the states I have worked with you just leave the original plates on the vehicle from out of state, then order plates, tags, etc, when you register.

HammerheadFistpunch > Casper
11/05/2013 at 18:38

all, as far as my research could tell me. You always need a valid registration that ties to you not to mention insurance cards. Cops are lenient, but they don't have to be. I've heard horror stories. Its really easy to get a temp though, they last for a week I think.

Gamecat235 > Gamecat235
11/05/2013 at 18:40

I'm not an idiot!

Temporary vehicle registration allows temporary movement of a vehicle under specific circumstances, including:

The vehicle is not registered.

The vehicle is properly registered in an IRP state without Texas listed.

The vehicle is registered in a state that does not have a reciprocity agreement with Texas.

The vehicle is registered in a state that has a prorate agreement with Texas, but the vehicle does not have a prorate sticker or registration cab card for Texas.

To increase weight, if the vehicle is not registered for its maximum allowable weight.

Three types of temporary registration permits are available to motor carriers: 72-hour, 144-hour and one-trip.

One-trip temporary registration is only available to unladen vehicles with a route that either begins or ends in Texas. This permit only allows the vehicle to travel from a single origin to a single destination point and is valid for 15 days.

http://www.txdmv.gov./component/k2/i…

Eligibility for One-Trip Temporary Registration

passenger cars carrying passengers and property, or a pulling travel trailer

travel trailers

a truck or truck-tractor in combination with an unladen semitrailer (both vehicles in the combination require temporary registration)

a truck with a mounted camper unit

a charter bus from another state or country (may carry property and passengers)

mobile offices that are completely gutted or empty of furniture

Bandit > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 18:42

I've always just assumed I had around 3 days from the purchase of the car and getting it registered. Any police that stop you would let you go if you show them a bill of sale/receipt from the restoration shop. My grandfather drove his truck from the restoration shop an hour away to his house on plates from 1976.

Dusty Ventures > Casper
11/05/2013 at 18:42

This may not be a viable option as odds are I'll be buying from a dealer, not a private seller, and therefore it won't have plates. And even if it's a private seller he may want to keep the plates for his next car.

Casper > deekster_caddy
11/05/2013 at 18:42

That's why I said most. For instance in Oregon which is a state that requires insurance, you must have proof of insurance that spans vehicles. For instance State Farm may issue insurance to your current car, but they cover you driving other cars. This allows you to buy a car for cash and drive it home without having to get insurance specific to the car before doing so. Even a state like that which is a mandatory insurance state has provisions for newly purchased used vehicles.

I have never encountered a state that this wasn't the case other than maybe California (you need a law degree to dig through all their layers of nonsense). Usually they are more strict if it's a brand new vehicle... then it's a matter of how it is taxed and such.

Casper > HammerheadFistpunch
11/05/2013 at 18:50

That is absolutely not true.

Here is Michigan's take:
http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-1…

Oregon subjects it to the same 30 days as other vehicles as near as anyone knows:
http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/Pages…

It varies state by state, but very few is it completely illegal to drive a vehicle that is purchased home...

shpuker > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 18:52

Don't do this. You can get in a shit load of trouble. You can get a temp tag in which ever state you purchase the vehicle for a couple bucks. I'd call the states DMV specifically and ask what you would need to do to get it.

HammerheadFistpunch > Casper
11/05/2013 at 18:56

interesting, I guess it is in Washington, Idaho and Utah. Those are the places I checked.

deadpedal > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 18:57

I usually just take a plate off a state police car in my home state and then fly down with them. Working so far.

(everyone here is on the right track. No plate or a old plate is better than a false plate)

Casper > HammerheadFistpunch
11/05/2013 at 19:02

Washington is a little weird. They say you can't drive an unregistered vehicle... but they consider the prior owners registration valid for a period of time. I have never heard or found any evidence that you can not do this for the entire 15 days leading up to the $125 fine for failure to register... but I have always taken the vehicle straight back to my home states DMV and registered it the same day. When bringing an out of state car in, the biggest issue is the tax. They really want their money for that car.

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Depending on whether you have bought your vehicle from a dealership or a private party determines what you have to do to register and title your vehicle. You must title and register your vehicle within 15 days of taking ownership.

If you do not title and register your vehicle within 15 days, you will be charged $50 on the 16th day and $2 every day after, with the maximum penalty totaling $125.

desertdog5051 > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 19:07

Personally, with signed title and bill of sale, I would just go with the expired or unexpired plates registered to it. But I rarely "stay inside the lines". Never got busted for anything yet and have done it several times.

Aaron Brown > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 19:31

Pretty sure you can't do that. The way I recently did something like this was getting temporary "in-transit" plates from the state of purchase DMV. For me this was CT. To do this, you need the bill of sale, insurance, title, and registration forms. Then I was issued a paper plate to take my car back to my home state, which was NY. Now, he is the possibly illegal part...

Im still driving the car with my in-transit plates because I haven't had the chance to go to the NY DMV and get real plates.

crashonice > HammerheadFistpunch
11/05/2013 at 19:52

Yep, this is usually the easiest way all told. Sometimes they will want to see a copy of the title before they issue the temp 30-day tags (my recent experience with AK DMV), but once you've paid your fee you just turn in your out-of-state title when you get the vehicle driven over, and they'll hand you metal plates and your new title.

Alex Murel > Dusty Ventures
11/05/2013 at 20:22

I don't know about other states, but I, as a Wisconsin resident, just bought a motorcycle in Texas and I got temp plates (good for 2 months) straight from the dealer. The only problem is that my actual plates got sent straight to the dealer, who then lost them. So yeah, theres that little problem.

His Stigness > Gamecat235
11/05/2013 at 21:51

Sorry to invade another post, but can you delete my most recent piece on Oppo? For some reason I cannot make any changes to it. Daswauto has disabled the comments but that is only going to make it worse. I'd like the post deleted and I will respond to all the comments in bulk later. But I would really appreciate it if you could delete my post as I'm unable to.

Gamecat235 > His Stigness
11/05/2013 at 22:09

Yep. One moment.

His Stigness > Gamecat235
11/05/2013 at 22:12

Thanks. And I think I wasn't able to delete or edit it is because I don't think I have Oppo authorship anymore. When I go to compose a post Oppositelock is not there anymore. Can you confirm whether I have authorship or not anymore.

Gamecat235 > His Stigness
11/05/2013 at 22:15

You're there. Weird. I did delete it. I checked and you should have author status here. Let me know if there is an issue.

His Stigness > Gamecat235
11/05/2013 at 22:26

Huh. I'll try tomorrow after Nibbles has gone. And thanks for deleting the post.

His Stigness > Gamecat235
11/06/2013 at 15:54

Hey so I'm still not able to post to Oppo. When I go to compose a post my only option is my personal blog.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > His Stigness
11/06/2013 at 16:25

You were likely in fact blocked

His Stigness > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
11/06/2013 at 17:29

So that's different then not having authorship then?

Gamecat235 > His Stigness
11/06/2013 at 17:33

I'm not sure if you saw this: http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/if-you-dont-li… . Matt responded to you directly. And I wanted to ensure that you understood that your position piece was heard.

In past versions of the commenting system I have seen commenters lose various privileges for similar behavior. I have seen lost stars, disemvowelings, and outright bans. I do not believe that an outright ban is necessarily the best move here, however, for the time being your authorship has been removed as a precautionary measure while I speak with the other moderators for Oppo. However, you remain followed by Oppositelock, which means that you can still comment freely on posts here.

It is important to remember that criticizing a member of the staff who is simply doing their job will likely never go over well.

Additionally, from a critical and creative writing point of view, I would recommend reading the works of Ezra Dyer, Brock Yates, our own Jason Torchinsky, some of Mike Spinelli's older works (and his newer work both here and on other sites) and the wonderful works of Mark Twain (really, the man was a literary genius). Being able to find your voice, bring comedy to the table while moving toward your point, and staying on task, even when you seemingly diverge from it, is an art form. And it requires years of practice. I encourage you to write more.

Myself or one of the other moderators will provide more information shortly. Let me know if you have any questions.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > His Stigness
11/06/2013 at 17:46

His Stigness > Gamecat235
11/06/2013 at 19:08

Okay thank you for the update.

As I told DasWauto, I'm not surprised to be blocked. My pieces in the past have been more controversial and only controversial with no normal piece sprinkled in. DasWauto made a good point that I have a habit of backpedaling and right now I think the best solution to that (assuming I still had authorship) was just to stop with the overly negative, very controversial pieces.

The point I had in my head was that I felt that Zac's pieces were always opinionated and I just didn't enjoy reading them. Instead of just not reading them anymore, which I tend not to anyways because I don't like his writing, I chose to open my big mouth and didn't stop and think for a second. I've done this in the past and quickly redacted my statement before too much damage had been done, but in the past the statements were not directed at one person, and certainly not at a FP writer. I also made the mistake of comparing Jalopnik to other magazines and did not catch onto the different style that is Jalopnik, even though I've been an avid reader for many years.

Do I agree with the authorship ban? If it's temporary then yes I totally understand. If you and the other moderators think that I can't change my ways and quit with the controversial pieces and decide to make the ban permanent, I agree if you look at my past pieces. While I would be disappointed that I can't share my future pieces I think at this point it doesn't matter if I get authorship back because I think I've just lost whatever followers I still had. Within the last few weeks my pieces have just been controversial followed by negative and more and more people were saying they were fed up, I think this was the last straw for anyone. Perhaps if I actually changed my ways and just wrote normal pieces I might slowly gain some readers back, but I highly doubt it.

I think it was you in the first place that granted me authorship and I want to thank you for that because without my temporary authorship I would not have discovered Oppo and the many great people on it. Thank you.

His Stigness > Gamecat235
11/06/2013 at 21:59

And just in case this might help my case for keeping authorship the links below are all works in progress I plan(ned) on publishing soon when I finish all of them.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12I…

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uy…

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xx…

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NV…

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR…

Gamecat235 > His Stigness
11/06/2013 at 22:46

The removal of authorship is temporary. As long as everything goes smoothly in the next 7 days time we'll reinstate it then. In the interim you are still followed by Oppositelock and are encouraged to participate here in that capacity.

I have been away from the computer tonight (kids, family and work) and unable to read the links posted, but I do believe that you are putting your best foot forward. I look forward to reading the documents you posted as well as seeing your interactions over the next week.

Basically, I just want to give this a bit of time to breathe. If you have something which you think is definitely worth posting in the next 7 days, post it to your blog, and then let one of us know and we'll share it if we think the community would appreciate it.

His Stigness > Gamecat235
11/07/2013 at 00:06

Alright thank you. I'll take the time off and continue working on my works in progress, and continue to work on more pieces that contribute to Oppo in a much more positive way.

Gamecat235 > His Stigness
11/07/2013 at 00:17

As I said, please feel free to comment on existing posts, you still have the ability to do that and all posts will appear as normal in the comments here. And if you write something in the interim which is time sensitive, or which you would just like featured. Please let us know.

The key here is just taking a step back and evaluating the situation and approach. Sometimes that helps everything.

DasWauto > His Stigness
11/13/2013 at 21:34

It's been a week so I've returned your authorship. Take some more care in what you choose to write and in making sure you are getting across what you want to. You're going to have to be careful to improve your reputation.

Let me know if you help.